Matt and Abby Howard Reveal a New Twist in Their Sleeping Arrangements — Why They No Longer Share a Bed

Mar. 15, 2025

“My wife’s not a huge fan of this arrangement obviously,” he explained in the episode. “I don’t know a spouse that would be stoked about their significant other sleeping in the freaking closet.” He clarified that the arrangement is temporary and shared that it was “something I had to do just to prioritize my mental health.”

“I was not okay,” he continued. “I was really struggling [and] I was feeling awful, so that’s why I’m here.” Matt also opened up about his constant battle with ADHD and anxiety and noted that was part of the reason why he chose to sleep in the closet.

Matt Howard.Matt Howard/YouTube

Matt Howard/YouTube

“I would put so much pressure on myself to try to be the cool kid that I would rehearse the way I would say words in front of people,” he continued. “Even though I knew how to talk… the fear of not being able to do something got so big that it overrode my desire to do the thing I wanted to do.”

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“I’m a lonely gal,” she explained. “Say what you want, but I am codependent… [and] I hated being alone at night.” She also added that it’s been hard to go into the closet now since “there’s a queen-size mattress in there.”

Matt also explained that he saw his parents sleep separately growing up because they both had sleep problems and noted that it also had “nothing to do with the ‘health of their marriage.’ "

Matt also confirmed that he would still be a part of theUnplannedpodcast. He spoke more about theNight Shiftpodcast and explained he picked the namesince “I love the night [and] so I stay up and I have all these big ideas.”

“I’ve had some of my best conversations with friends and my wife [at night],” he continued. “The late-night conversations are just so good because you laugh, you cry and you bond on a really deep level.  I don’t see myself doing music or TikTok forever, but I can’t see myself podcasting and interviewing people when I’m 80 years old. I genuinely love doing this so much. So I’m very excited to see where that show takes me and takes us.”

source: people.com